12:59:22 From Lydia Tang : Agenda: https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/ADC/pages/348094550/2017-12-19+Meeting+notes 12:59:54 From Lydia Tang : Organization of Menus: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GhCE6JHMcXkjtOeAZ35IoMAEqG1EDhcLKoC1q07MrsA/edit?usp=sharing 13:00:13 From Lydia Tang : Agents Subjects: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14fX9JYeGJyJORxDDsAoMtAlpqiCeZnj6gZIw_E-PnQ4/edit?usp=sharing 13:01:22 From Lydia Tang : SIEWG opt-in survey for 2018: https://goo.gl/forms/qveRCBi2Bs1sI6Dw2 13:05:30 From SaraC : I would support this change, any simpification sounds good 13:09:51 From Alexis Adkins : Agreed 13:09:57 From jarcher : No I was swayed by Miloche's statement in the doc 13:10:13 From Alexis Adkins : re: access points 13:10:19 From jane labarbara : I'm fine nixing Access Points, but if we can find another term for Subjects (even Subjects Etc.) that would be fine. 13:10:21 From SaraC : The combining of the system admin and settings yes 13:14:15 From Johanna Carll : That seems like a great improvement over the current functionality 13:14:54 From jane labarbara : We merge because of lack of authority in the past. 13:15:07 From Johanna Carll : Bad ingest data 13:15:10 From jane labarbara : three abe lincolns, civil war vs. the actual term for that, etc. 13:15:26 From Betsy : all good reasons! 13:15:26 From Alexis Adkins : Yep, we've got that kind of thing too! 13:16:06 From jane labarbara : YES!! 13:16:14 From Betsy : yes! 13:16:19 From jane labarbara : My users forget their passwords a lot, because I made all of them and they are silly. 13:16:53 From SaraC : A yes here too! 13:16:53 From Alexis Adkins : Ours are synced like Miloche said 13:17:01 From jarcher : Agreed. we also use central authentication 13:17:46 From jane labarbara : I haven't gotten to really digest Jason's suggestions either. 13:19:04 From Lydia Tang : User Accounts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/14auNDZBdV443pja9iwUuOiKc9mpuKF8nW_6ItJsOYHg/edit?usp=sharing 13:20:19 From moulton : Sorry I'm late. 13:22:36 From Lydia Tang : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XzFm-bFqKm9nan8TX41BD_AkEIuMxKM4Iw16kFm4YPo/edit?usp=sharing 13:24:18 From Lydia Tang : Hi Lynn! 13:24:26 From Lydia Tang : We just talked about the Agents and Subjects 13:24:42 From Betsy : The 2 publish boxes is somewhat confusing, unless you need it, I guess. I wonder if it would be good to have a second word for the check box, so you knew what you were changing or addressing 13:25:13 From moulton : No, I think you covered it. 13:27:35 From moulton : If the user had control over whether any given note was multipart, any note that was just going to have one subnote text could be set to single-part and eliminate the second checkbox. But this would be a new piece of functionality we haven't though through yet. 13:28:06 From Johanna Carll : I like the idea of inherited publish unless subnote intentionally unpublished 13:29:17 From Lydia Tang : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mFaNi8I2Uj2CPR7HEpbiwyEA6pLfhabmygqUIT_gT_E/edit?usp=sharing 13:29:32 From moulton : AT used to say "internal only?" Was that any better than "publish" or "public"? 13:31:24 From jarcher : This is not something that really occurred to me but I do like the working public better. 13:31:32 From jarcher : *wording* 13:31:53 From Betsy : agreed 13:32:50 From Lydia Tang : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poanmnYaVfU4kUoxyMa6r0GQwA74byvZdduc7smQuYQ/edit?usp=sharing 13:34:05 From moulton : The current proposal is to eliminate manual validation, but I think it could be worth the trouble to validate manually if you're using some of the functionality where you drag sequences down your rows. 13:34:20 From Betsy : I don't have experience with this 13:35:28 From moulton : Is autovalidation worth the time it saves? Or maybe remove it entirely? 13:35:31 From jane labarbara : Could we have the users choose if they want to autovalidate rows or manually validate? Could a checkbox be built into RDE for that? 13:36:10 From Johanna Carll : I like the validation when saving option 13:36:12 From Betsy : That sounds like it makes sense to have a delay, catching before saving sounds good. 13:36:22 From jane labarbara : Validate when saving also sounds good 13:37:38 From moulton : If you validate at save, there could be an "ingore errors and proceed with save" or "fix errors" option once the validator ran? 13:38:10 From Lydia Tang : I would imagine that it would go to fix error 13:38:56 From moulton : I don't use RDE much at present, so I don't know what throws an error. 13:41:10 From Christine Kim : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZQwFowMnUx8AIiewqbqO08CO9TSGIe22AnYCUza9LEo/edit?usp=sharing 13:42:07 From jane labarbara : If the system can't save without overwriting, I would suggest locking a record while it's being edited, and showing who is editing the record if someone else tries. 13:43:07 From Betsy : It might be helpful to have the option to save one's own copy of what changes they intended to make, even if someone else was saving 1st. But I don't know if the 2nd persons ideas are lost completely or not. 13:43:13 From jarcher : I would be concerned about two people in same record. I think I'd prefer only one person be able to edit at a time. 13:45:38 From Alexis Adkins : It is useful to have multiple ppl edit a record simultaneously if you've split a large amount of data entry among several workers. 13:47:47 From Alexis Adkins : I would like it to update if it's edited at any level 13:49:09 From Betsy : makes sense 13:50:13 From Betsy : That sounds good 13:53:06 From Betsy : how about after the holidays 13:53:51 From jarcher : I think the end of the day tomorrow. I feel like if I don't get to it by then, I probably will run out of time! 13:53:53 From jane labarbara : I won't be able to contribute much more this year--I've got to get my annual faulty file in before I leave on vacation, but I understand wanting to get this in quickly. 13:54:24 From Betsy : end of the day tomorrow or end of week is fine w/me 13:54:28 From moulton : +1 day sounds good, unless tomorrow looks unready at end of day 13:55:06 From SaraC : Sounds good 13:55:13 From Alexis Adkins : Works for me 13:55:36 From Betsy : sounds good 13:56:54 From moulton : Since we're moving out of the comment period, that sounds ok. 13:57:46 From jane labarbara : Is there a specific reason it needs to move out of Google docs? is it just an access issue? 13:57:48 From moulton : Sorry, that was in response to downloading the docs and attaching to confluence. 13:58:32 From Betsy : can you keep /save a comments version, and then move to a clean version, the comments would be available elsewhere for those who want more detail? 14:01:04 From moulton : good 14:01:06 From Betsy : yes 14:02:53 From SaraC : Great! 14:02:54 From jane labarbara : Thanks for your leadership, Lydia! 14:02:58 From jarcher : Sounds good. Thank you Lydia! 14:02:59 From Betsy : Thank you Lydia! 14:03:00 From moulton : Thanks Lydia! 14:03:01 From devonproudfoot : Thanks! 14:03:03 From Alexis Adkins : Thank you! 14:03:05 From SaraC : Thank you Lydia!